An Education in Equity – Update

A few weeks ago Niko in Vancouver sent us a message about our Mother’s Day “Odd Woman Out” round. After listening to last weekend’s show he had this to say:

I just listened to this week’s show (July 22 with Alex Horwitz) and heard the Odd Woman Out segment. I emailed back on Mothers’ Day to complain that many of the women were referenced by the men in their lives.
I was verily pleased to note this time the women were all important because of their own merits. Great work and thank you.

To read Niko’s original message click here.

Pay to the Order of _____

Ted, former maritime lawyer and KQED listener, sent us a legal definition that comes packed with terms and conditions. Here at Says You! we’re still waiting for the money to come in. Thanks for giving our definition a raise Ted!

On your July 9 show you erred on the definition and derivation of “pay to the order of.” It does not reflect the words or implication conveyed by the payee of a check when demanding payment to herself (an act called “presentment” not “order”). “Pay to the order of . . .” means, “This is a negotiable instrument, which may be transferred to a third party by an endorsement directing payment to that party or to the order of that party.” The “order” refers to the direction from the payee or subsequent endorser to pay to another. Without the words “the order of” a check is payable only to the payee.

Another example is a bill of lading, a shipping receipt obtained by the shipper upon delivery of the cargo to a carrier for carriage. Bills of lading come in two flavors: negotiable bills of lading when made out with the words “consigned to the order of Jane Doe,” and non-negotiable when made out with “consigned to Jane Doe.” In the first case the carrier must deliver to the person to whom consignment is “ordered” by the last subsequent “order of” endorsement, if any. In the second case, the carrier may deliver the cargo only to Jane Doe, the person named as the “‘consignee”, no matter how many subsequent endorsers there might be.


A Martha’s Vineyard Classic

This weekend we have a classic with Richard Sher from Martha’s Vineyard. While you’re enjoying this classic show mark your calendar  for September 23rd when Says You! returns to the Cape Cod for a live taping.

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Answer Amelioration

Pam in Vashon, we hear you and couldn’t agree more. In the heat of a round sometimes points get awarded even when a definition isn’t one hundred percent. On this one we appreciate that you took the time to write:

Schizophrenia is not related to multiple personality and never was. Schizophrenia was overused as a diagnosis in the early to mid-20th century, and undoubtedly some given that diagnosis actually had multiple personality disorder (yes, dissociative identity disorder), but that is never what it meant. The basic meaning of schizophrenia is now quite similar to its original meaning.

They are quite different conditions. Schizophrenia (from the Greek for “split mind,” referring to disunity in the individual’s thoughts, emotions, and behaviors) is characterized by hallucinations and delusions. Dissociative identity disorder (formerly known as “split personality”) is characterized by fragmentation of the individual’s identity.

Media Kit

A new episode from Seattle, WA with Alex Horwitz

Fans of the hit musical Hamilton shouldn’t miss this week’s episode from Town Hall in Seattle, Washington. Our guest is Alex Horwitz, director and producer of Hamilton’s America, the PBS documentary that dives in to Lin-Manuel Miranda’s creation of Hamilton; with interviews on the plays impact that include President Barack Obama, Senator Elizabeth Warren, and Questlove. Check your local listings to hear Alex Horwitz this weekend and find out more about Hamilton’s America here.

Also, does that guy’s name sound familiar? Horwitz…

Quips on the Quimper – Listen Now!

Our first show from Port Townsend, a community event for The Jefferson Clemente Course in the Humanities, airs this weekend. This is not the first time the cast has journeyed from Seattle by ferry to Bainbridge and beyond.  Our much admired friends, Brion Toss and Pattie Miles joined Barry to team up against Carolyn, Murray, and Lela Hilton, Director of The Jefferson Clemente Course and our champion hostess.  Thanks to Finnriver Farms for hosting our meet and greet! There’s no better way to prepare for punning and puzzling than cider, crepes, and friends. Tune into your local station for some Quips on the Quimper.

We would tell you how great the night was, but our friends at The Port Townsend Leader were taking notes all night. They summed up the fun here.



We On An Ultralight Beam

Carolyn’s definition for Sarcoline might have been a bluff, but Max from Parker, Colorado found a term that isn’t far off.

In one of your recent shows, Carolyn defined “Sarcoline” as an opening in the clouds that lets sunlight through. While I am not aware of a word for the gap in the clouds, the sunlight that comes through is called Crepuscular Rays. If the rays reach the ground it’s called Jacob’s Ladder.

In The Twilight Zone

Terry from Sacramento had a Says You! moment stranger than fiction. Say “Hello” to Mr. Serling!

I had the most incredible twilight zone- esque coincidence during this show. I was on a 6.5 hour drive from Southern California to Angel’s Camp, CA. I drove by (and looked at) a highway sign that read “Snelling 1 mile” during the exact 5 seconds when the name “Snelling” was said and spelled out on your show.



Do you have your own Says You! coincidence? Let us know! And if you ever need help finding an old episode or locating a lost word, just email us at

Totally Rad Explanation, Bro

Kent from Sacramento, CA gave us a little info on some waves you can’t surf.

On your June 11 show you asked what was the difference between AM and FM radio. And although your players came up with a couple of good analogies, I would like to submit mine. As a former fifth grade teacher, I would demonstrate the difference using a slinky stretched between two students. AM waves would be shown by one student raising and lowering her hand causing an amplitude wave. FM waves were shown by the student pushing her hand forward, then pulling the slinky back. This would cause a frequency wave to transmit down the toy. This gave the class a concrete visual.